Rawlins Cross - Unsignalized Traffic Circulation

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Consultation has concluded

picture of one of Rawlins Cross intersections

By removing the two traffic signals and introducing unsignalized circulatory control this pilot project would look to determine if capacity, level of service, and safety in this area can be improved.

The diagram on this page illustrates the proposed pilot implementation plan. Please note that accommodation has been made for emergency services so that they are not negatively impacted by this change.

Implementation Rating: Complex



On March 30, 2020 Council voted to remove the temporary installation of the traffic circle configuration for Rawlins Cross and not to proceed with a permanent installation.

View the News feed below for the latest updates on this project.

By removing the two traffic signals and introducing unsignalized circulatory control this pilot project would look to determine if capacity, level of service, and safety in this area can be improved.

The diagram on this page illustrates the proposed pilot implementation plan. Please note that accommodation has been made for emergency services so that they are not negatively impacted by this change.

Implementation Rating: Complex



On March 30, 2020 Council voted to remove the temporary installation of the traffic circle configuration for Rawlins Cross and not to proceed with a permanent installation.

View the News feed below for the latest updates on this project.

Consultation has concluded

Do you have questions about this traffic pilot that have not been addressed on this page? Leave them here and someone from the City's staff will get back to you soon.

  • Share Hi there, I go through this intersection at least twice daily either in a car or on foot. I have almost been struck by a vehicle while on the crosswalk heading east on Military. Just curious if crosswalk lights can be installed in order to notify oncoming traffic of the presence of pedestrians. If there is a vehicle in the right turning lane (Monkstown Road to Military) you aren't always visible to traffic travelling in the inside lane. This is a problem, as well, when trying to enter into the round-about in a vehicle. on Facebook Share Hi there, I go through this intersection at least twice daily either in a car or on foot. I have almost been struck by a vehicle while on the crosswalk heading east on Military. Just curious if crosswalk lights can be installed in order to notify oncoming traffic of the presence of pedestrians. If there is a vehicle in the right turning lane (Monkstown Road to Military) you aren't always visible to traffic travelling in the inside lane. This is a problem, as well, when trying to enter into the round-about in a vehicle. on Twitter Share Hi there, I go through this intersection at least twice daily either in a car or on foot. I have almost been struck by a vehicle while on the crosswalk heading east on Military. Just curious if crosswalk lights can be installed in order to notify oncoming traffic of the presence of pedestrians. If there is a vehicle in the right turning lane (Monkstown Road to Military) you aren't always visible to traffic travelling in the inside lane. This is a problem, as well, when trying to enter into the round-about in a vehicle. on Linkedin Email Hi there, I go through this intersection at least twice daily either in a car or on foot. I have almost been struck by a vehicle while on the crosswalk heading east on Military. Just curious if crosswalk lights can be installed in order to notify oncoming traffic of the presence of pedestrians. If there is a vehicle in the right turning lane (Monkstown Road to Military) you aren't always visible to traffic travelling in the inside lane. This is a problem, as well, when trying to enter into the round-about in a vehicle. link

    Hi there, I go through this intersection at least twice daily either in a car or on foot. I have almost been struck by a vehicle while on the crosswalk heading east on Military. Just curious if crosswalk lights can be installed in order to notify oncoming traffic of the presence of pedestrians. If there is a vehicle in the right turning lane (Monkstown Road to Military) you aren't always visible to traffic travelling in the inside lane. This is a problem, as well, when trying to enter into the round-about in a vehicle.

    Tracy Holmes asked over 5 years ago

    Thanks for your inquiry.  Council very recently approved the temporary installation of Rapid Rectangular Flashing Beacon (RRFB) signs at the Monkstown Road and King’s Road crossings into the centre of Rawlins Cross pending the outcome of the pilot project. The equipment will be ordered and installed this fall.

  • Share This area simply cannot function as a roundabout. Pedestrian traffic is too high, there is not enough room for the appropriate lanes needed to clearly identify where cars are travelling. Pedestrians are crossing the actual "roundabout," which is a huge safety issue. Placing crossing lights there will make the situation even worse and lead to increased rear-end collisions. Cars cannot stop in a roundabout - that is the point - one lane keeps going in the roundabout, and the other is for exiting and entering. This pilot project was ill-conceived and should end as soon as possible. It is simply not safe, and crossing signals will not fix the issue. Put it back to the way it was. on Facebook Share This area simply cannot function as a roundabout. Pedestrian traffic is too high, there is not enough room for the appropriate lanes needed to clearly identify where cars are travelling. Pedestrians are crossing the actual "roundabout," which is a huge safety issue. Placing crossing lights there will make the situation even worse and lead to increased rear-end collisions. Cars cannot stop in a roundabout - that is the point - one lane keeps going in the roundabout, and the other is for exiting and entering. This pilot project was ill-conceived and should end as soon as possible. It is simply not safe, and crossing signals will not fix the issue. Put it back to the way it was. on Twitter Share This area simply cannot function as a roundabout. Pedestrian traffic is too high, there is not enough room for the appropriate lanes needed to clearly identify where cars are travelling. Pedestrians are crossing the actual "roundabout," which is a huge safety issue. Placing crossing lights there will make the situation even worse and lead to increased rear-end collisions. Cars cannot stop in a roundabout - that is the point - one lane keeps going in the roundabout, and the other is for exiting and entering. This pilot project was ill-conceived and should end as soon as possible. It is simply not safe, and crossing signals will not fix the issue. Put it back to the way it was. on Linkedin Email This area simply cannot function as a roundabout. Pedestrian traffic is too high, there is not enough room for the appropriate lanes needed to clearly identify where cars are travelling. Pedestrians are crossing the actual "roundabout," which is a huge safety issue. Placing crossing lights there will make the situation even worse and lead to increased rear-end collisions. Cars cannot stop in a roundabout - that is the point - one lane keeps going in the roundabout, and the other is for exiting and entering. This pilot project was ill-conceived and should end as soon as possible. It is simply not safe, and crossing signals will not fix the issue. Put it back to the way it was. link

    This area simply cannot function as a roundabout. Pedestrian traffic is too high, there is not enough room for the appropriate lanes needed to clearly identify where cars are travelling. Pedestrians are crossing the actual "roundabout," which is a huge safety issue. Placing crossing lights there will make the situation even worse and lead to increased rear-end collisions. Cars cannot stop in a roundabout - that is the point - one lane keeps going in the roundabout, and the other is for exiting and entering. This pilot project was ill-conceived and should end as soon as possible. It is simply not safe, and crossing signals will not fix the issue. Put it back to the way it was.

    DebCoombs asked over 4 years ago

    Thank you for the feedback. It will be considered in evaluating the pilot project.

  • Share Why is the intersection not more pedestrian friendly ? why hasn't pedestrian crossing lights been installed ? In February of this year while walking down military rd I almost got clipped by a car coming up military road and turning right. if I wasn't quick on my feet I would of been run over. I think if pedestrians are at their own peril this is just a fatality waiting to happen.. I think with so much going on in this intersection having traffic to stop in flow is very important.. further more I think the city wasted hard earned money on an intersection that was working well for automotive traffic and pedestrians equally I walk alot in this city . A city I love and let council and its officials be advised if I ever get injured crossing at Rawlins cross I will be holding them Liable... on a final note the Pedestrians always has the right of way ... it's time this was ratified and put back as it was on Facebook Share Why is the intersection not more pedestrian friendly ? why hasn't pedestrian crossing lights been installed ? In February of this year while walking down military rd I almost got clipped by a car coming up military road and turning right. if I wasn't quick on my feet I would of been run over. I think if pedestrians are at their own peril this is just a fatality waiting to happen.. I think with so much going on in this intersection having traffic to stop in flow is very important.. further more I think the city wasted hard earned money on an intersection that was working well for automotive traffic and pedestrians equally I walk alot in this city . A city I love and let council and its officials be advised if I ever get injured crossing at Rawlins cross I will be holding them Liable... on a final note the Pedestrians always has the right of way ... it's time this was ratified and put back as it was on Twitter Share Why is the intersection not more pedestrian friendly ? why hasn't pedestrian crossing lights been installed ? In February of this year while walking down military rd I almost got clipped by a car coming up military road and turning right. if I wasn't quick on my feet I would of been run over. I think if pedestrians are at their own peril this is just a fatality waiting to happen.. I think with so much going on in this intersection having traffic to stop in flow is very important.. further more I think the city wasted hard earned money on an intersection that was working well for automotive traffic and pedestrians equally I walk alot in this city . A city I love and let council and its officials be advised if I ever get injured crossing at Rawlins cross I will be holding them Liable... on a final note the Pedestrians always has the right of way ... it's time this was ratified and put back as it was on Linkedin Email Why is the intersection not more pedestrian friendly ? why hasn't pedestrian crossing lights been installed ? In February of this year while walking down military rd I almost got clipped by a car coming up military road and turning right. if I wasn't quick on my feet I would of been run over. I think if pedestrians are at their own peril this is just a fatality waiting to happen.. I think with so much going on in this intersection having traffic to stop in flow is very important.. further more I think the city wasted hard earned money on an intersection that was working well for automotive traffic and pedestrians equally I walk alot in this city . A city I love and let council and its officials be advised if I ever get injured crossing at Rawlins cross I will be holding them Liable... on a final note the Pedestrians always has the right of way ... it's time this was ratified and put back as it was link

    Why is the intersection not more pedestrian friendly ? why hasn't pedestrian crossing lights been installed ? In February of this year while walking down military rd I almost got clipped by a car coming up military road and turning right. if I wasn't quick on my feet I would of been run over. I think if pedestrians are at their own peril this is just a fatality waiting to happen.. I think with so much going on in this intersection having traffic to stop in flow is very important.. further more I think the city wasted hard earned money on an intersection that was working well for automotive traffic and pedestrians equally I walk alot in this city . A city I love and let council and its officials be advised if I ever get injured crossing at Rawlins cross I will be holding them Liable... on a final note the Pedestrians always has the right of way ... it's time this was ratified and put back as it was

    Derek asked about 5 years ago

    Thank you for the feedback. It will be considered in evaluating the pilot project.

  • Share The survey mentions a "redesigned centre plaza area." What is it exactly? Thank you on Facebook Share The survey mentions a "redesigned centre plaza area." What is it exactly? Thank you on Twitter Share The survey mentions a "redesigned centre plaza area." What is it exactly? Thank you on Linkedin Email The survey mentions a "redesigned centre plaza area." What is it exactly? Thank you link

    The survey mentions a "redesigned centre plaza area." What is it exactly? Thank you

    Viviana asked about 5 years ago

    The area of Military Road that is currently closed is the location being referred to. It would, if approved by Council, likely become a plaza of some description.


  • Share Certainly by the looks of it, all you did was stop traffic from going straight through military road. You have the number of accidents listed for each area but not what was the cause of such accidents. What were the similarities and how are you confident in this solution. I fail to see how this will help. There are a lot of roads where you cant get up to 50 because it not a safe speed. In a city where everyone does 10-15 over. Wouldn't it be more pratical to set some roads at 30. Then if the speed they will only be doing 40-45. on Facebook Share Certainly by the looks of it, all you did was stop traffic from going straight through military road. You have the number of accidents listed for each area but not what was the cause of such accidents. What were the similarities and how are you confident in this solution. I fail to see how this will help. There are a lot of roads where you cant get up to 50 because it not a safe speed. In a city where everyone does 10-15 over. Wouldn't it be more pratical to set some roads at 30. Then if the speed they will only be doing 40-45. on Twitter Share Certainly by the looks of it, all you did was stop traffic from going straight through military road. You have the number of accidents listed for each area but not what was the cause of such accidents. What were the similarities and how are you confident in this solution. I fail to see how this will help. There are a lot of roads where you cant get up to 50 because it not a safe speed. In a city where everyone does 10-15 over. Wouldn't it be more pratical to set some roads at 30. Then if the speed they will only be doing 40-45. on Linkedin Email Certainly by the looks of it, all you did was stop traffic from going straight through military road. You have the number of accidents listed for each area but not what was the cause of such accidents. What were the similarities and how are you confident in this solution. I fail to see how this will help. There are a lot of roads where you cant get up to 50 because it not a safe speed. In a city where everyone does 10-15 over. Wouldn't it be more pratical to set some roads at 30. Then if the speed they will only be doing 40-45. link

    Certainly by the looks of it, all you did was stop traffic from going straight through military road. You have the number of accidents listed for each area but not what was the cause of such accidents. What were the similarities and how are you confident in this solution. I fail to see how this will help. There are a lot of roads where you cant get up to 50 because it not a safe speed. In a city where everyone does 10-15 over. Wouldn't it be more pratical to set some roads at 30. Then if the speed they will only be doing 40-45.

    Dale Conwat asked over 5 years ago

    A: Thank you for the feedback. It will be considered in evaluating the pilot project.

  • Share I live on the corner of Bond St & Flavin St. a block from Rawlins Cross. I estimate that 80 - 90% of drivers ignore the stop sign on this corner with some drivers blowing through the intersection at 50 - 60 km/hr. A few weeks ago a motorcycle flew through the intersection at about 60 km/hr then lifted up on one wheel as the driver proceeded down Bond St. This is a residential neighbourhood with family & small children. Question: If drivers ignore stop signs in this area, what confidence do pedestrians have that drivers are going to respect the cross walks in Rawlins Cross? on Facebook Share I live on the corner of Bond St & Flavin St. a block from Rawlins Cross. I estimate that 80 - 90% of drivers ignore the stop sign on this corner with some drivers blowing through the intersection at 50 - 60 km/hr. A few weeks ago a motorcycle flew through the intersection at about 60 km/hr then lifted up on one wheel as the driver proceeded down Bond St. This is a residential neighbourhood with family & small children. Question: If drivers ignore stop signs in this area, what confidence do pedestrians have that drivers are going to respect the cross walks in Rawlins Cross? on Twitter Share I live on the corner of Bond St & Flavin St. a block from Rawlins Cross. I estimate that 80 - 90% of drivers ignore the stop sign on this corner with some drivers blowing through the intersection at 50 - 60 km/hr. A few weeks ago a motorcycle flew through the intersection at about 60 km/hr then lifted up on one wheel as the driver proceeded down Bond St. This is a residential neighbourhood with family & small children. Question: If drivers ignore stop signs in this area, what confidence do pedestrians have that drivers are going to respect the cross walks in Rawlins Cross? on Linkedin Email I live on the corner of Bond St & Flavin St. a block from Rawlins Cross. I estimate that 80 - 90% of drivers ignore the stop sign on this corner with some drivers blowing through the intersection at 50 - 60 km/hr. A few weeks ago a motorcycle flew through the intersection at about 60 km/hr then lifted up on one wheel as the driver proceeded down Bond St. This is a residential neighbourhood with family & small children. Question: If drivers ignore stop signs in this area, what confidence do pedestrians have that drivers are going to respect the cross walks in Rawlins Cross? link

    I live on the corner of Bond St & Flavin St. a block from Rawlins Cross. I estimate that 80 - 90% of drivers ignore the stop sign on this corner with some drivers blowing through the intersection at 50 - 60 km/hr. A few weeks ago a motorcycle flew through the intersection at about 60 km/hr then lifted up on one wheel as the driver proceeded down Bond St. This is a residential neighbourhood with family & small children. Question: If drivers ignore stop signs in this area, what confidence do pedestrians have that drivers are going to respect the cross walks in Rawlins Cross?

    David Cumming asked almost 6 years ago

    A: Thank you for the feedback. It will be considered in evaluating the pilot project.

  • Share I'm a little hesitant that the changes you are putting in place will actually improve the flow of traffic in this area. The questions already posed here are valid concerns, especially related to pedestrians and winter driving conditions. My concern, which was not voiced within the video, is the Queens Road and Prescott section. No where in the video does it show how coming out of Queens (I believe this is going East) and into Rawlins by Prescott will work. The whole point of a roundabout is to improve traffic flow by making everything yields and right hand turns only. However, the Queens to Rawlins cross access is not a right hand turn, nor is the section where traffic already in the "circle" can go straight down Prescott, essentially right in front of the Queens entry point. How should this section now be handled? I'm sceptical at best that this will work as well as you think. on Facebook Share I'm a little hesitant that the changes you are putting in place will actually improve the flow of traffic in this area. The questions already posed here are valid concerns, especially related to pedestrians and winter driving conditions. My concern, which was not voiced within the video, is the Queens Road and Prescott section. No where in the video does it show how coming out of Queens (I believe this is going East) and into Rawlins by Prescott will work. The whole point of a roundabout is to improve traffic flow by making everything yields and right hand turns only. However, the Queens to Rawlins cross access is not a right hand turn, nor is the section where traffic already in the "circle" can go straight down Prescott, essentially right in front of the Queens entry point. How should this section now be handled? I'm sceptical at best that this will work as well as you think. on Twitter Share I'm a little hesitant that the changes you are putting in place will actually improve the flow of traffic in this area. The questions already posed here are valid concerns, especially related to pedestrians and winter driving conditions. My concern, which was not voiced within the video, is the Queens Road and Prescott section. No where in the video does it show how coming out of Queens (I believe this is going East) and into Rawlins by Prescott will work. The whole point of a roundabout is to improve traffic flow by making everything yields and right hand turns only. However, the Queens to Rawlins cross access is not a right hand turn, nor is the section where traffic already in the "circle" can go straight down Prescott, essentially right in front of the Queens entry point. How should this section now be handled? I'm sceptical at best that this will work as well as you think. on Linkedin Email I'm a little hesitant that the changes you are putting in place will actually improve the flow of traffic in this area. The questions already posed here are valid concerns, especially related to pedestrians and winter driving conditions. My concern, which was not voiced within the video, is the Queens Road and Prescott section. No where in the video does it show how coming out of Queens (I believe this is going East) and into Rawlins by Prescott will work. The whole point of a roundabout is to improve traffic flow by making everything yields and right hand turns only. However, the Queens to Rawlins cross access is not a right hand turn, nor is the section where traffic already in the "circle" can go straight down Prescott, essentially right in front of the Queens entry point. How should this section now be handled? I'm sceptical at best that this will work as well as you think. link

    I'm a little hesitant that the changes you are putting in place will actually improve the flow of traffic in this area. The questions already posed here are valid concerns, especially related to pedestrians and winter driving conditions. My concern, which was not voiced within the video, is the Queens Road and Prescott section. No where in the video does it show how coming out of Queens (I believe this is going East) and into Rawlins by Prescott will work. The whole point of a roundabout is to improve traffic flow by making everything yields and right hand turns only. However, the Queens to Rawlins cross access is not a right hand turn, nor is the section where traffic already in the "circle" can go straight down Prescott, essentially right in front of the Queens entry point. How should this section now be handled? I'm sceptical at best that this will work as well as you think.

    K asked almost 6 years ago

    A: All entry points to the circulating road will face a yield. This includes Queens even though this entry is straight. While some exits from the circulating road are right turns many, such as southbound on Prescott, are also straight. The intersection of Queens/Prescott will operate effectively the same way as it does today.


  • Share We own the property located at 124 Military Road, a cornerstone in the Rawlins Cross intersection. We have significant concerns about the proposed Traffic Pilot Project for this area, the three most important of which are as follows: 1. Safe Access to Property o 124 Military Road currently has off-street parking for two vehicles. This positively contributes to the property’s real estate value. o The current timing of the lights (including the inability to turn right on a red light when traveling westbound on Military Road) enables us to have safe entry into and out of our driveway (as demonstrated by the fact that there were no collisions in that area between 2011 and 2017) and minimizes the impact on the flow of traffic. o The proposed roundabout will result in a constant stream of traffic and will make safe entry into the driveway at 124 Military difficult, if not impossible, particularly as there will be limited warning of traffic entering Rennie’s Mill Road from Military Road. o The inability to safely use the driveway at 124 Military Road will result in a devaluation of the property. Pedestrian Safety o The City of St. John’s published a diagram on its website (“Collision Map”) that identifies that there have been 4 pedestrians injured in this intersection from 2011 to 2017. Every one of these pedestrian accidents/injuries occurred on crosswalks that had neither traffic lights nor walk signals. o The proposed roundabout will eliminate all traffic signals in that intersection and presumably the hope is that crosswalks alone will be sufficient to permit the safe and constant flow of pedestrians. o This accident history suggests that this proposed change is counter-intuitive and will result in more pedestrian injuries. o As this roundabout initiative is led by the City, this could open the City to increased liability. Frequency of Accidents o According to the Collision Map, - traffic from Rennie’s Mill Road feeding into Monkstown Road accounts for 32 accidents and - traffic Westbound on Military Road accounts for 22 accidents. o The current proposal will funnel all westbound traffic on Military Road into the intersection of Rennie’s Mill and Monkstown, further exacerbating an already problematic intersection. o Again, if the purpose of the proposed Traffic Pilot Project is to improve safety, the accident history in this intersection indicates that safety will, in fact, deteriorate if the Project moves forward in its current form. We trust that you will implement a plan that takes the foregoing into consideration. on Facebook Share We own the property located at 124 Military Road, a cornerstone in the Rawlins Cross intersection. We have significant concerns about the proposed Traffic Pilot Project for this area, the three most important of which are as follows: 1. Safe Access to Property o 124 Military Road currently has off-street parking for two vehicles. This positively contributes to the property’s real estate value. o The current timing of the lights (including the inability to turn right on a red light when traveling westbound on Military Road) enables us to have safe entry into and out of our driveway (as demonstrated by the fact that there were no collisions in that area between 2011 and 2017) and minimizes the impact on the flow of traffic. o The proposed roundabout will result in a constant stream of traffic and will make safe entry into the driveway at 124 Military difficult, if not impossible, particularly as there will be limited warning of traffic entering Rennie’s Mill Road from Military Road. o The inability to safely use the driveway at 124 Military Road will result in a devaluation of the property. Pedestrian Safety o The City of St. John’s published a diagram on its website (“Collision Map”) that identifies that there have been 4 pedestrians injured in this intersection from 2011 to 2017. Every one of these pedestrian accidents/injuries occurred on crosswalks that had neither traffic lights nor walk signals. o The proposed roundabout will eliminate all traffic signals in that intersection and presumably the hope is that crosswalks alone will be sufficient to permit the safe and constant flow of pedestrians. o This accident history suggests that this proposed change is counter-intuitive and will result in more pedestrian injuries. o As this roundabout initiative is led by the City, this could open the City to increased liability. Frequency of Accidents o According to the Collision Map, - traffic from Rennie’s Mill Road feeding into Monkstown Road accounts for 32 accidents and - traffic Westbound on Military Road accounts for 22 accidents. o The current proposal will funnel all westbound traffic on Military Road into the intersection of Rennie’s Mill and Monkstown, further exacerbating an already problematic intersection. o Again, if the purpose of the proposed Traffic Pilot Project is to improve safety, the accident history in this intersection indicates that safety will, in fact, deteriorate if the Project moves forward in its current form. We trust that you will implement a plan that takes the foregoing into consideration. on Twitter Share We own the property located at 124 Military Road, a cornerstone in the Rawlins Cross intersection. We have significant concerns about the proposed Traffic Pilot Project for this area, the three most important of which are as follows: 1. Safe Access to Property o 124 Military Road currently has off-street parking for two vehicles. This positively contributes to the property’s real estate value. o The current timing of the lights (including the inability to turn right on a red light when traveling westbound on Military Road) enables us to have safe entry into and out of our driveway (as demonstrated by the fact that there were no collisions in that area between 2011 and 2017) and minimizes the impact on the flow of traffic. o The proposed roundabout will result in a constant stream of traffic and will make safe entry into the driveway at 124 Military difficult, if not impossible, particularly as there will be limited warning of traffic entering Rennie’s Mill Road from Military Road. o The inability to safely use the driveway at 124 Military Road will result in a devaluation of the property. Pedestrian Safety o The City of St. John’s published a diagram on its website (“Collision Map”) that identifies that there have been 4 pedestrians injured in this intersection from 2011 to 2017. Every one of these pedestrian accidents/injuries occurred on crosswalks that had neither traffic lights nor walk signals. o The proposed roundabout will eliminate all traffic signals in that intersection and presumably the hope is that crosswalks alone will be sufficient to permit the safe and constant flow of pedestrians. o This accident history suggests that this proposed change is counter-intuitive and will result in more pedestrian injuries. o As this roundabout initiative is led by the City, this could open the City to increased liability. Frequency of Accidents o According to the Collision Map, - traffic from Rennie’s Mill Road feeding into Monkstown Road accounts for 32 accidents and - traffic Westbound on Military Road accounts for 22 accidents. o The current proposal will funnel all westbound traffic on Military Road into the intersection of Rennie’s Mill and Monkstown, further exacerbating an already problematic intersection. o Again, if the purpose of the proposed Traffic Pilot Project is to improve safety, the accident history in this intersection indicates that safety will, in fact, deteriorate if the Project moves forward in its current form. We trust that you will implement a plan that takes the foregoing into consideration. on Linkedin Email We own the property located at 124 Military Road, a cornerstone in the Rawlins Cross intersection. We have significant concerns about the proposed Traffic Pilot Project for this area, the three most important of which are as follows: 1. Safe Access to Property o 124 Military Road currently has off-street parking for two vehicles. This positively contributes to the property’s real estate value. o The current timing of the lights (including the inability to turn right on a red light when traveling westbound on Military Road) enables us to have safe entry into and out of our driveway (as demonstrated by the fact that there were no collisions in that area between 2011 and 2017) and minimizes the impact on the flow of traffic. o The proposed roundabout will result in a constant stream of traffic and will make safe entry into the driveway at 124 Military difficult, if not impossible, particularly as there will be limited warning of traffic entering Rennie’s Mill Road from Military Road. o The inability to safely use the driveway at 124 Military Road will result in a devaluation of the property. Pedestrian Safety o The City of St. John’s published a diagram on its website (“Collision Map”) that identifies that there have been 4 pedestrians injured in this intersection from 2011 to 2017. Every one of these pedestrian accidents/injuries occurred on crosswalks that had neither traffic lights nor walk signals. o The proposed roundabout will eliminate all traffic signals in that intersection and presumably the hope is that crosswalks alone will be sufficient to permit the safe and constant flow of pedestrians. o This accident history suggests that this proposed change is counter-intuitive and will result in more pedestrian injuries. o As this roundabout initiative is led by the City, this could open the City to increased liability. Frequency of Accidents o According to the Collision Map, - traffic from Rennie’s Mill Road feeding into Monkstown Road accounts for 32 accidents and - traffic Westbound on Military Road accounts for 22 accidents. o The current proposal will funnel all westbound traffic on Military Road into the intersection of Rennie’s Mill and Monkstown, further exacerbating an already problematic intersection. o Again, if the purpose of the proposed Traffic Pilot Project is to improve safety, the accident history in this intersection indicates that safety will, in fact, deteriorate if the Project moves forward in its current form. We trust that you will implement a plan that takes the foregoing into consideration. link

    We own the property located at 124 Military Road, a cornerstone in the Rawlins Cross intersection. We have significant concerns about the proposed Traffic Pilot Project for this area, the three most important of which are as follows: 1. Safe Access to Property o 124 Military Road currently has off-street parking for two vehicles. This positively contributes to the property’s real estate value. o The current timing of the lights (including the inability to turn right on a red light when traveling westbound on Military Road) enables us to have safe entry into and out of our driveway (as demonstrated by the fact that there were no collisions in that area between 2011 and 2017) and minimizes the impact on the flow of traffic. o The proposed roundabout will result in a constant stream of traffic and will make safe entry into the driveway at 124 Military difficult, if not impossible, particularly as there will be limited warning of traffic entering Rennie’s Mill Road from Military Road. o The inability to safely use the driveway at 124 Military Road will result in a devaluation of the property. Pedestrian Safety o The City of St. John’s published a diagram on its website (“Collision Map”) that identifies that there have been 4 pedestrians injured in this intersection from 2011 to 2017. Every one of these pedestrian accidents/injuries occurred on crosswalks that had neither traffic lights nor walk signals. o The proposed roundabout will eliminate all traffic signals in that intersection and presumably the hope is that crosswalks alone will be sufficient to permit the safe and constant flow of pedestrians. o This accident history suggests that this proposed change is counter-intuitive and will result in more pedestrian injuries. o As this roundabout initiative is led by the City, this could open the City to increased liability. Frequency of Accidents o According to the Collision Map, - traffic from Rennie’s Mill Road feeding into Monkstown Road accounts for 32 accidents and - traffic Westbound on Military Road accounts for 22 accidents. o The current proposal will funnel all westbound traffic on Military Road into the intersection of Rennie’s Mill and Monkstown, further exacerbating an already problematic intersection. o Again, if the purpose of the proposed Traffic Pilot Project is to improve safety, the accident history in this intersection indicates that safety will, in fact, deteriorate if the Project moves forward in its current form. We trust that you will implement a plan that takes the foregoing into consideration.

    tpikefarrell asked almost 6 years ago

    A: Thank you for the feedback. It will be considered in evaluating the pilot project.

  • Share I'm not only a resident with a front-row seat to the proposed round-about, but also an employee at 142 Military with offices diagonally at 84 Prescott. Even under the current configuration, it's a death-defying process to cross the street with the walk signs, especially in front of Hungry Heart Café. Drivers who are allowed to turn right on red from Monkstown onto Military literally blow around the corner without being able to see if there is a pedestrian on the crossing or not (they're usually looking in the opposite direction to see if a car is coming). In actual fact, I've had just as many near misses crossing across the mouth of Monkstown as well (and I am not exactly a slip of a person). Another significant area of concern, and one which will only be exacerbated when Rennie's Mill southbound has the priority, is the sheer number of cars running the stop sign if there are no northbound cars. Any pedestrian crossing from the west to east side of Rennie's Mill would not stand a chance given the speeds the cars are driving. I did have an encounter about one month ago while crossing the street (not in our neighbourhood) where a pick-up truck started driving through the intersection (he had a stop sign) while I was on the crossing. When I shouted to him that I had the right-of-way, his response was "yeah, right!". Driver education should be added to the list as well, at least for the most basic traffic laws. My other serious concern is the ongoing issue with modified mufflers, principally, but not exclusively, on motorcycles. As it stands now, it's deafening when they roar up Rennie's Mill Road: conversations, either face-to-face or on the phone have to be paused, never mind watching television (I suppose I could use closed captioning...). With the round-about, every single westbound cycle will be passing in front of the house. Having lived for 24 years in downtown Montreal as well as countless visits to NYC, I have never, ever encountered the issue of modified mufflers as I have done so here. I should not have to wear ear protection in my own home. The complete and utter lack of enforcement, I feel, is the single greatest problem. If the city is unwilling to dedicate resources to having an actual human presence as a deterrent, then at the very least a photo radar camera should help somewhat. on Facebook Share I'm not only a resident with a front-row seat to the proposed round-about, but also an employee at 142 Military with offices diagonally at 84 Prescott. Even under the current configuration, it's a death-defying process to cross the street with the walk signs, especially in front of Hungry Heart Café. Drivers who are allowed to turn right on red from Monkstown onto Military literally blow around the corner without being able to see if there is a pedestrian on the crossing or not (they're usually looking in the opposite direction to see if a car is coming). In actual fact, I've had just as many near misses crossing across the mouth of Monkstown as well (and I am not exactly a slip of a person). Another significant area of concern, and one which will only be exacerbated when Rennie's Mill southbound has the priority, is the sheer number of cars running the stop sign if there are no northbound cars. Any pedestrian crossing from the west to east side of Rennie's Mill would not stand a chance given the speeds the cars are driving. I did have an encounter about one month ago while crossing the street (not in our neighbourhood) where a pick-up truck started driving through the intersection (he had a stop sign) while I was on the crossing. When I shouted to him that I had the right-of-way, his response was "yeah, right!". Driver education should be added to the list as well, at least for the most basic traffic laws. My other serious concern is the ongoing issue with modified mufflers, principally, but not exclusively, on motorcycles. As it stands now, it's deafening when they roar up Rennie's Mill Road: conversations, either face-to-face or on the phone have to be paused, never mind watching television (I suppose I could use closed captioning...). With the round-about, every single westbound cycle will be passing in front of the house. Having lived for 24 years in downtown Montreal as well as countless visits to NYC, I have never, ever encountered the issue of modified mufflers as I have done so here. I should not have to wear ear protection in my own home. The complete and utter lack of enforcement, I feel, is the single greatest problem. If the city is unwilling to dedicate resources to having an actual human presence as a deterrent, then at the very least a photo radar camera should help somewhat. on Twitter Share I'm not only a resident with a front-row seat to the proposed round-about, but also an employee at 142 Military with offices diagonally at 84 Prescott. Even under the current configuration, it's a death-defying process to cross the street with the walk signs, especially in front of Hungry Heart Café. Drivers who are allowed to turn right on red from Monkstown onto Military literally blow around the corner without being able to see if there is a pedestrian on the crossing or not (they're usually looking in the opposite direction to see if a car is coming). In actual fact, I've had just as many near misses crossing across the mouth of Monkstown as well (and I am not exactly a slip of a person). Another significant area of concern, and one which will only be exacerbated when Rennie's Mill southbound has the priority, is the sheer number of cars running the stop sign if there are no northbound cars. Any pedestrian crossing from the west to east side of Rennie's Mill would not stand a chance given the speeds the cars are driving. I did have an encounter about one month ago while crossing the street (not in our neighbourhood) where a pick-up truck started driving through the intersection (he had a stop sign) while I was on the crossing. When I shouted to him that I had the right-of-way, his response was "yeah, right!". Driver education should be added to the list as well, at least for the most basic traffic laws. My other serious concern is the ongoing issue with modified mufflers, principally, but not exclusively, on motorcycles. As it stands now, it's deafening when they roar up Rennie's Mill Road: conversations, either face-to-face or on the phone have to be paused, never mind watching television (I suppose I could use closed captioning...). With the round-about, every single westbound cycle will be passing in front of the house. Having lived for 24 years in downtown Montreal as well as countless visits to NYC, I have never, ever encountered the issue of modified mufflers as I have done so here. I should not have to wear ear protection in my own home. The complete and utter lack of enforcement, I feel, is the single greatest problem. If the city is unwilling to dedicate resources to having an actual human presence as a deterrent, then at the very least a photo radar camera should help somewhat. on Linkedin Email I'm not only a resident with a front-row seat to the proposed round-about, but also an employee at 142 Military with offices diagonally at 84 Prescott. Even under the current configuration, it's a death-defying process to cross the street with the walk signs, especially in front of Hungry Heart Café. Drivers who are allowed to turn right on red from Monkstown onto Military literally blow around the corner without being able to see if there is a pedestrian on the crossing or not (they're usually looking in the opposite direction to see if a car is coming). In actual fact, I've had just as many near misses crossing across the mouth of Monkstown as well (and I am not exactly a slip of a person). Another significant area of concern, and one which will only be exacerbated when Rennie's Mill southbound has the priority, is the sheer number of cars running the stop sign if there are no northbound cars. Any pedestrian crossing from the west to east side of Rennie's Mill would not stand a chance given the speeds the cars are driving. I did have an encounter about one month ago while crossing the street (not in our neighbourhood) where a pick-up truck started driving through the intersection (he had a stop sign) while I was on the crossing. When I shouted to him that I had the right-of-way, his response was "yeah, right!". Driver education should be added to the list as well, at least for the most basic traffic laws. My other serious concern is the ongoing issue with modified mufflers, principally, but not exclusively, on motorcycles. As it stands now, it's deafening when they roar up Rennie's Mill Road: conversations, either face-to-face or on the phone have to be paused, never mind watching television (I suppose I could use closed captioning...). With the round-about, every single westbound cycle will be passing in front of the house. Having lived for 24 years in downtown Montreal as well as countless visits to NYC, I have never, ever encountered the issue of modified mufflers as I have done so here. I should not have to wear ear protection in my own home. The complete and utter lack of enforcement, I feel, is the single greatest problem. If the city is unwilling to dedicate resources to having an actual human presence as a deterrent, then at the very least a photo radar camera should help somewhat. link

    I'm not only a resident with a front-row seat to the proposed round-about, but also an employee at 142 Military with offices diagonally at 84 Prescott. Even under the current configuration, it's a death-defying process to cross the street with the walk signs, especially in front of Hungry Heart Café. Drivers who are allowed to turn right on red from Monkstown onto Military literally blow around the corner without being able to see if there is a pedestrian on the crossing or not (they're usually looking in the opposite direction to see if a car is coming). In actual fact, I've had just as many near misses crossing across the mouth of Monkstown as well (and I am not exactly a slip of a person). Another significant area of concern, and one which will only be exacerbated when Rennie's Mill southbound has the priority, is the sheer number of cars running the stop sign if there are no northbound cars. Any pedestrian crossing from the west to east side of Rennie's Mill would not stand a chance given the speeds the cars are driving. I did have an encounter about one month ago while crossing the street (not in our neighbourhood) where a pick-up truck started driving through the intersection (he had a stop sign) while I was on the crossing. When I shouted to him that I had the right-of-way, his response was "yeah, right!". Driver education should be added to the list as well, at least for the most basic traffic laws. My other serious concern is the ongoing issue with modified mufflers, principally, but not exclusively, on motorcycles. As it stands now, it's deafening when they roar up Rennie's Mill Road: conversations, either face-to-face or on the phone have to be paused, never mind watching television (I suppose I could use closed captioning...). With the round-about, every single westbound cycle will be passing in front of the house. Having lived for 24 years in downtown Montreal as well as countless visits to NYC, I have never, ever encountered the issue of modified mufflers as I have done so here. I should not have to wear ear protection in my own home. The complete and utter lack of enforcement, I feel, is the single greatest problem. If the city is unwilling to dedicate resources to having an actual human presence as a deterrent, then at the very least a photo radar camera should help somewhat.

    cdb asked almost 6 years ago

    A: Thank you for the feedback. It will be considered in evaluating the pilot project.

  • Share "Collisions on Military Road are almost always a situation where someone runs a red light". I am curious as to how removing the traffic lights will alleviate this issue? I use this intersection daily to commute to and from work in the downtown area, and while there is increased congestion during rush hour (as it is everywhere in the city), I feel that the removal of the traffic lights on Military Road will add to the congestion and general confusion of the roadway. Has the City given thought to an alternative light pattern instead of complete removal? on Facebook Share "Collisions on Military Road are almost always a situation where someone runs a red light". I am curious as to how removing the traffic lights will alleviate this issue? I use this intersection daily to commute to and from work in the downtown area, and while there is increased congestion during rush hour (as it is everywhere in the city), I feel that the removal of the traffic lights on Military Road will add to the congestion and general confusion of the roadway. Has the City given thought to an alternative light pattern instead of complete removal? on Twitter Share "Collisions on Military Road are almost always a situation where someone runs a red light". I am curious as to how removing the traffic lights will alleviate this issue? I use this intersection daily to commute to and from work in the downtown area, and while there is increased congestion during rush hour (as it is everywhere in the city), I feel that the removal of the traffic lights on Military Road will add to the congestion and general confusion of the roadway. Has the City given thought to an alternative light pattern instead of complete removal? on Linkedin Email "Collisions on Military Road are almost always a situation where someone runs a red light". I am curious as to how removing the traffic lights will alleviate this issue? I use this intersection daily to commute to and from work in the downtown area, and while there is increased congestion during rush hour (as it is everywhere in the city), I feel that the removal of the traffic lights on Military Road will add to the congestion and general confusion of the roadway. Has the City given thought to an alternative light pattern instead of complete removal? link

    "Collisions on Military Road are almost always a situation where someone runs a red light". I am curious as to how removing the traffic lights will alleviate this issue? I use this intersection daily to commute to and from work in the downtown area, and while there is increased congestion during rush hour (as it is everywhere in the city), I feel that the removal of the traffic lights on Military Road will add to the congestion and general confusion of the roadway. Has the City given thought to an alternative light pattern instead of complete removal?

    Vanessa asked almost 6 years ago

    A: By removing the traffic light the way vehicles move through the intersection is more consistent: those entering from Military Road always yield then turn right to enter, and those travelling north/south always have the right of way. This has several effects on the collisions at these intersections: there is no red light that drivers may attempt to beat; there will be no vehicles exiting the “middle section” of Military Road where there is poor visibility that contributes to collisions; the angle of any collisions that do occur is likely to be more like a sideswipe than a T-bone which leads to less severe collisions; the flow of vehicles should be smoother with fewer starts/stops which reduces the likelihood of rear-end collisions; the tendency of some drivers to focus on the traffic light rather than their surroundings will be reduced leading to fewer collisions as a result of inattention; and the number of points where vehicle travel paths cross – “conflict points” – is reduced leading to lower probability of collisions occurring.

    An alternate pattern to the traffic lights has been considered. There is not very much that can be done due to the limitations imposed by the proximity of the two lights. One option identified looks feasible and will be used if the traffic circle proves to be unsuccessful.